Surely there must be some low-cost options to 'share' the excess space on Main Street and make it more accessible to everyone.
By Bob Berberick
Published July 30, 2014
Here is a photograph looking east from Main Street East and Victoria Avenue, taken at 3:45 PM on Tuesday, July 29.
Looking east from Main Street East and Victoria Avenue
I would like to draw your attention to the construction on Main Street between East Avenue and Emerald Avenue where two (2) middle lanes were closed to traffic.
The following video clearly shows that there was no impact on the traffic flow. It also shows a number of cyclists, pedestrians, and a lady with her young family on the sidewalk perilously close to the traffic.
Clearly, five lanes are a luxury, not a necessity.
Council over the past few years has recognized and made positive changes to the city's transportation culture. I applaud that but there is still much work to do to make this space safe and efficient for everyone.
I ask that Council please do something about the horrible conditions on Main Street, a street that is currently friendly only to motorists.
I suggest spending just 15 minutes any day on Main Street to watch the pedestrian and cycling traffic. There is a lot of it in spite of these inhospitable, even dangerous, conditions.
I'm not suggesting major infrastructure changes. Surely there must be some low-cost options) available to "share" this space, making it a safer, more complete environment for everyone to enjoy.
By burningbeard (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 04:13:36 in reply to Comment 103631
Why ruin a good thing? I highly enjoy having the space and timed lights. No need to screw that all up like they have on York blvd. And King St. Downtown.
By DavidColacci (registered) | Posted August 02, 2014 at 18:47:19 in reply to Comment 103631
By KevinLove (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 13:39:04 in reply to Comment 103631
As a Canadian Army veteran, I regard these remarks as profoundly ignorant. It is my sincere prayer that this anonymous person will never find himself in a real war zone so that he truly realizes how foolish and ignorant he has been.
Car drivers poison and kill an average of 93 people in Hamilton every year, and crush and kill an average of an additional 19.2 people every year. I would suggest that criminal, not military, sanctions are the appropriate response to these vicious killings.
Since I am not anonymous, I will sign myself as:
K40592576 Captain (retired) Kevin C. Love, CD
By AnjoMan (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 10:22:56 in reply to Comment 103631
When you are driving, all the cars are around you because the lights are timed... but that doesn't mean the majority of the road is not empty.
By Pxtl (registered) - website | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:46:47 in reply to Comment 103631
So how many casualties has the War On Cars claimed? Because Hamilton is #2 in Ontario for killing pedestrians. Cars are the leading preventable cause of death in people under 30.
So yeah, who's fighting a war on who?
By getwithit (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:06:02 in reply to Comment 103631
You say "war on cars" like it's a bad thing. We need to wage war on cars. Get with the program, you ignorante ischrooge!
By Sheep (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 05:45:00 in reply to Comment 103631
The sheep on this site believe it. It's easy to pick a time when most businesses aren't closed and in the heart of vacation time.
Run this experiment again in the first couple of weeks in September at 4:30 and let's compare results.
By j.servus (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:58:46 in reply to Comment 103647
I live in the same area just off Main. I see it at all hours and cycle it frequently. I could get pictures at rush hour and they would tell the same story: two, maybe three lanes worth of traffic distributed over five. The only purpose of the curb lanes, besides turning, is to get to the front of the green wave. It is easy to observe that, most of the time, two lanes would be quite adequate for the traffic on Main east of Wellington. What is easy to observe for oneself is also confirmed by the city's traffic counts. That stretch of Main carries on average about 4200 vehicles per lane. The industry standard for North American cities is 8-9000 vehicles per lane. We could convert a lane into a two way bike track and the remaining lanes would still be well below capacity per industry standard. I am pretty sure most businesses on Main would love that.
Main east is basically a hostile street with insultingly narrow sidewalks. It is not pleasant to cycle on. However, it does have the signal advantage, for a cyclist, of surplus lanes. It is easy to grab a lane for oneself without affecting traffic flow in the least. This is no less true at 4:30 than at any other time.
By reality check (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:20:23 in reply to Comment 103647
Rush hour in hamiton = you encounter THREE red lights driving across the entire city instead of just one.
By heh (anonymous) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 05:51:53 in reply to Comment 103660
By Anon (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 08:51:45 in reply to Comment 103647
Yeah. That is called Rush Hour. All normal major cities have it. Just because Hamilton built a road network that sacrifices entire neighhourhoods to accommodate 2 hours of daily congestion doesn't make this city "normal". Quite abnormal is what we are.
By Unkn (anonymous) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 05:51:30 in reply to Comment 103657
By Anon (anonymous) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 09:49:35 in reply to Comment 103676
Cars can "run through" neighbourhoods just fine on 2 way streets. Multi lane one way streets do nothing but encourage speeding.
By LOL_all_over_again (registered) | Posted August 04, 2014 at 22:42:06 in reply to Comment 103681
Actually the timed lights discourage speeding. The mess on streets like James south where it's not uncommon to have to stop at 2 or 3 successive lights does encourage speeding, trying to get to the next light before it turns red.
By DissenterOfThings (registered) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 08:41:35 in reply to Comment 103676
It's a troll everyone! Look!
By LOL_all_over_again (registered) | Posted August 04, 2014 at 22:42:40 in reply to Comment 103679
Are you really? Can you post a picture?
By Core-B (registered) | Posted July 30, 2014 at 23:34:36 in reply to Comment 103631
Sorry to burst your bubble "war on cars" but it was a surprise video. I live in the area and was walking to Canadian Tire when I noticed that 2 lanes were closed and traffic was still moving swiftly. I decided to take a video for a few minutes, and what you see is what happened. Nothing staged, no waiting just real life on Main Street.
Comment edited by Core-B on 2014-07-30 23:35:07
By bort (registered) | Posted July 30, 2014 at 22:04:38 in reply to Comment 103631
"Little war on cars"
LOL. You're the resident troll aren't you?
I just arrived in Hamilton after living in Vancouver for 8 years and before that Toronto. Even to a recent transplant it's obvious this city LOVES cars. If you think there's a war on cars here you need to look beyond your front yard. Hamilton has a mere speck of the cycling infrastructure Vancouver does (and by global standards, Vancouver's investment in cycling infrastructure is paltry). Some folks were up in arms when Vancouver reclaimed lanes for bicycle traffic (Burrard bridge, Dunsmuir viaduct) but the benefits – to me – were clear. In the 8 years I spent there I witnessed a huge increase in the number of people commuting to work. When commuting from East Van to downtown on warm summer days I was often riding in a pack of 20 - 30 cyclists. And that was just one group out of hundreds, on one bike path. It was a beautiful thing and I miss it.
I applaud the work people are doing here to help Hamilton evolve. It's a great city with friendly people and beautiful surroundings. So much potential.
Comment edited by bort on 2014-07-30 22:05:41
By LOL_all_over_again (registered) | Posted August 04, 2014 at 22:45:22 in reply to Comment 103638
The city of Hamilton doesn't have much of a war on cars, a few things it has done sure makes me wonder but all in all it's not to bad. This site however is a totally different thing.
By Cool post jason jr (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 05:43:55 in reply to Comment 103638
By j.servus (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:41:38 in reply to Comment 103646
"...because they have lived elsewhere..." Ah, yes, that strange experience called "learning from other people." You know, it was an American consultant who gave Hamilton the idea for its signature one-way urban freeways. We're the last ones dreaming his dream.
By jason (registered) | Posted July 30, 2014 at 23:33:31 in reply to Comment 103638
great post, and welcome to the Hammer. You're right - beautiful surroundings and great potential. The more urban transplants we can land from progressive cities should start to finally have an impact at the ballot box eventually. These are the 'in-between' years. Still have the 70's folks running the show, but slowly losing their grip as the next generation pushes for us to play some major catch-up. I love the Vancouver example because it is consistently ranked one of the top cities in the world. Tough for any respectable Hamiltonian to make the case that we know better than Vancouver. We have lots to learn. Glad you're here and joining the conversation!
By Moniz (registered) - website | Posted July 30, 2014 at 21:40:58 in reply to Comment 103631
You mean the crap you're perpetuating that Main is SO busy that a lane can not be spared? Traffic study after traffic study has shown we have excess lane capacity in several areas, but city staff and a few Councillors(like one who lives Ancaster particularly!) still keep planning for this huge influx of car/truck traffic that supposed to come with our industrialized economic development. You know, the same plan we've had since the late 50's!! Since then, the heavy manufacturing base in this city has contracted to a minor part of our overall economic mix of our city's economy and a serious rethink is in order to make our transportation systems more realistic and useable for ALL, not just single vehicle trips.
But who really believes crap like that when the status quo suits you just fine "war on cars".
By war on logic (anonymous) | Posted July 30, 2014 at 21:07:03 in reply to Comment 103631
Right. We have a war on cars in Hamilton. Give me a break.
By jason (registered) | Posted July 30, 2014 at 21:54:37
Main was also down to 3 lanes west of Bay last week for a couple of days. Was still a freeway. Traffic volumes clearly show that it only carries enough traffic to warrant 3 lanes from Queen to Bay and 2 east of Bay. But why right-size a street when you're a filthy rich city like Hamilton that can afford to pay 2x the maintenance, snow clearing, pot-hole, lane striping costs for decades unnecessarily. Only a post-industrial city struggling financially would look for obviously easy ways to save millions of taxpayer $.
I've shared this idea before and will continue to pound it, especially with the 5-year cycling plan review happening.
Main St currently has a two-way protected bike lane on it's south lane west of the 403. I suggest we extend that lane to Longwood Road (Innovation Park/ high school/ longwood bike lanes) and also extend it east to Dundurn. The ramp to Main East from 403 can easily lead to the 2nd lane from the curb instead of south curb lane there and cyclists will be instructed (of course, being the Hammer) to wait for a gap similar to what we do on King when crossing the 403 ramp. At Dundurn we add a bike box to the intersection, along with zebra crossings and scramble intersection (both King/Main at Dundurn deserve this treatment). The bike box shifts riders to the north curb of Main. The north car lane west of Dundurn becomes a left-turn only lane.
Here is where it gets good, and is quite mind-boggling that we have the ability to add such a dramatic piece of safe infrastructure without disrupting the city one bit:
From Dundurn all the way to the Delta we have a two-way parking-protected bike lane like this:
The bike lanes plus 2-3 foot buffer plus parking lane equals 2 current lanes of Main. So we maintain 3 full vehicle lanes from Dundurn to Sherman and 2 from Sherman to the Delta.
At the odd intersection where the city's car zealous 'planners' feel a left turn lane is necessary, they simply remove the couple car parking spots approaching an intersection - say Bay St - and add a left turn lane.
Also, at many intersections we have the opportunity to add bumpouts with tree planters and thus begin adding a much needed tree canopy to this brutal street.
This not only enhances the quality of life and visual appeal along Main, it serves to drastically shorten the distance pedestrians need to cross at a light.
Along most of the sidewalks along Main they are surprisingly wide enough to add regular tree basins like this:
Fast forward a few years and the street goes from drab, dead, dangerous and hot to this:
Cities all over the continent are doing exactly this, even if it means drastic traffic congestion and slowdowns. We are probably the only large city in North American that can transform a street like this along an urban distance like Longwood to the Delta without congesting or slowing down traffic. It's a win-win.
Of course, there's that finicky little thing about needing to be a privileged suburban or Mountain resident pointing out fast, dangerous streets in Hamilton to be given any attention at city hall:
So, if any of you reading this live on the Mountain or Ancaster, feel free to pitch my idea to Councillors Jackson or Ferguson. If I do it, we'll have to endure another speech about how the Main St freeway is our 'competitive advantage over Toronto'.
By Fred Street (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 08:02:08 in reply to Comment 103637
Agreed. If there's one thing we've established beyond a shadow of a doubt is that chronic congestion is not a problem in Hamilton, particularly across the lower city.
Despite this, there appears to be enough road widening to go around.
By Henry and Joe (anonymous) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 09:13:31
Main St. is a joke, but no one is laughing. I drove it twice during the evening "rush" hour this week. By car, it was a free flowing, non-stop pleasure cruise. I also went once by bicycle and after taking the whole right lane, cars whizzed past in waves at the normal 50-60 km/h. I am sure vacations and summer traffic are lighter than usual, but I can't ever say I have encountered traffic on Main St., unless there was an accident, in the last 20 years of driving.
By Tom, Dick and Harry (anonymous) | Posted August 09, 2014 at 22:04:06 in reply to Comment 103659
That's so interesting. I'm glad you shared that. In 20 years of driving I've hit traffic on Main daily for years. Maybe it's the time of day you're on there? I drive it daily any time between 4-6pm.
By Megan (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 11:51:09
I drive west to east and back again during both the morning and afternoon rush hour and rarely have any issues with traffic.
I can leave my house on John St. and make two stops to drop off children (one on either side of Gage park) and then drive to work at York and Dundurn. This whole trip (including drop offs, shoe changes, hugs and high fives) can be done in 35 minutes. I usually take Main from Catharine to Ottawa and come west on either King or Cannon depending on my mood.
The setback requirement for the one-way arterial roads is only justified if they will be used for sidewalk widening, bike lanes and other measures which would make these streets more complete.
By Giggles (anonymous) | Posted August 09, 2014 at 22:05:25 in reply to Comment 103668
Oh, you drive? You should use public transit, ride your bike, or walk. Driving isn't an acceptable means of transportation around here. As a result, I cna't feel sorry for you.
By arienc (registered) | Posted July 31, 2014 at 13:39:29 in reply to Comment 103668
The setback requirement for the one-way arterial roads is only justified if they will be used for sidewalk widening, bike lanes and other measures which would make these streets more complete.
Exactly. The issue is the fact that we are actually willing to chase away business (something that most of us who are capitalists want to see) in order to protect these setback requirements. If we are willing to stop people from investing in the core, we had better have a really good reason to do so.
The prospect of more car lanes on a road that already has far more than could concievably be required is not a good enough reason to turn down investments that will benefit every taxpayer in the city.
By Henry and Joe (anonymous) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 13:36:52
Today, a "gentleman" in a black pickup yelled and tried to intimidate me for taking a lane to turn left from Cannon to John. Ironically, I was being quite cautious in my approach to the future bike lane. I waited for the wave to pass, and I approached the red light in the left lane which was 100% clear at the time. Apparently, a driver came from the next wave and felt he was entitled to pull up beside me at the red to be in the pole position. Clearly, we need more lanes for cars on Cannon ;)
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 22:05:38
Lrt on King would have been awesome today. We have no residual capacity on our roads. All I read here is trying to reduce the little residual capacity we have. Any of you people try to drive in Hamilton today?
By jason (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 11:33:40 in reply to Comment 103692
LRT last Friday would have been jammed and full of riders all day long due to the partial QEW closure. People would have been grateful for the option. Remember, 70% of Hamiltonians work in Hamilton. Most of them downtown. Tens of thousands of usual car-drivers would have left the car at home for a few days and used BRT+LRT from all corners of the city IF we had invested in such transportation options decades ago when we had the chance.
All of these folks jumping on transit to avoid the road delays would have meant many more people getting to work on time, and would have freed up valuable road space for folks who truly need their cars/trucks for work. More options means everyone wins.
In the absence of any alternatives, everyone sat by themselves in their cars in long traffic jams. Not a single safe bike route across the city, horrible transit, no all day GO Train service from Niagara to Hamilton to TO.
When all you invest in is highways and cars for decades, the result when HALF of a single highway is closed is a colossal mess.
Comment edited by jason on 2014-08-05 11:35:37
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 10:36:05 in reply to Comment 103730
i work downtown. many people i work with that wouldnt be caught dead on a bus wanted the lrt up and running last week. many are now pro-lrt and will now be paying closer attention to which candidates support lrt and which dont.
By stats are fun! (anonymous) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 18:08:10 in reply to Comment 103759
I can say the same kind of thing.
"i work downtown. many people i work with that wouldnt be caught dead on a bus don't see why we need lrt. most are anti-lrt and will continue to tune out the screaming babies on RTH"
You don't provide stats, it's purely informal. How many people are now pro-lrt you work with? How many people did you "poll"? How many tune you out or jsut agree to get you to shut up?
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 10:49:16 in reply to Comment 103759
Work? You capitalist you. Profiting from your own labour! ( I want an audit.)
By redmke (anonymous) | Posted August 02, 2014 at 07:08:30 in reply to Comment 103692
wahhhh. didnt you enjoy all your extra chml time? get a life.
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 03, 2014 at 12:40:52 in reply to Comment 103696
Hey Red, still aching since Trotsky died?
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 03, 2014 at 14:57:01 in reply to Comment 103707
another wahhhhhhhh from the cheap seats.
By mikeonthemountain (registered) | Posted August 01, 2014 at 23:32:22 in reply to Comment 103692
The roads absolutely end up over capacity when they become EDRs for a total highway closure. This is a tiny, tiny, part of the time. And a problem of this duration, it was said, has not occurred on the Skyway in the last 20 years. So this isn't just an outlier, it's unprecedented, it was said.
This particular spot sure is one of the worst for that to happen. But anywhere between here and Oshawa (at least) is going to experience bedlam during business hours, if a highway closes down unexpectedly.
Essentially all of the time this is not the case. Hence cities develop themselves to what is appropriate on a normal basis. Developing a city such that traffic free flows through your CBD even when carrying the detoured traffic of an entire freeway; seems like an unlikely expectation.
Adjusting traffic signal timings for this situation, now that is appropriate to an EDR plan. As Hamilton's traffic lights are computerized, this will be done more easily and more readily. In fact, they could have had a software preset ready to go, and activated a computerized EDR immediately on Thursday, if the system was complete. That is the desired capability they are implementing.
Linc and Red Hill didn't exist not that long ago. Today they operate at 85% utilization on a normal day. No matter how many highways are built, subdivisions and development, and induced demand, always fill them up somehow, and there is never a good time when a crash shuts one down.
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 03, 2014 at 12:43:39 in reply to Comment 103694
Could you imagine the traffic problems if the Red Hill had not been built. Chicken and egg problem. If you wait 40 year to build a highway when you know it will be needed due to growth, of course it will run at 85% capacity in short order. Ontario's population has doubled since I was a kid, but the highway system hasn't.
By jason (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 11:30:17 in reply to Comment 103708
main point to remember from this comment is the definition of the word "growth". Debt-producing, land-wasting, tax base depleting outer growth always fills up roads and needs more and more. LA taught us this decades ago.
Urban growth connected by all modes of transport with equal efficiency and convenience doesn't require never ending highway construction. Vancouver, with not a single freeway, taught us this decades ago.
LA vs. Vancouver.
One city consistently ranks as one of the top in the world. The other is a smog-filled, traffic choked mess. Yet both have experienced tremendous 'growth'.
You get the city you plan for.....
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 12:11:41 in reply to Comment 103729
Emergency rooms and ER's are full to capacity. Let's not build hospitals. Bigger hospitals mean more will come.
To an extent that is in fact true. If you allow people to come to the hospital no matter what, they will fill it up. On the other hand, if you do not build enough, there will be constant delays and people will die needlessly. There has to be a balance.
When a roadway newly built operates at 85% capacity immediately, that tells you it should have been built long before. If it fills up over ten years, that says you haven't planned for alternatives very well.
I agree with you that proper urban planning is essential. That doesn't mean build no roads at all costs. (Personally I would live in neither LA or Vancouver.)
By AnjoMan (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 18:11:30 in reply to Comment 103731
Hospitals are not roads.
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 03, 2014 at 14:59:43 in reply to Comment 103708
someone should call a wahhhhhmbulance for chuckie.
By DowntownInHamilton (registered) | Posted August 04, 2014 at 22:12:20 in reply to Comment 103712
Do you have any other phrases in your troll book or just "waah"? Because you come off as a crybaby.
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 07:34:35 in reply to Comment 103718
what was that? i didnt get it the first time? waahhhhhhhhhhhh? thought so.
By DowntownInHamilton (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 22:50:40 in reply to Comment 103726
Get a new act. That one is old.
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 08:29:59 in reply to Comment 103744
hows your "family" doing on the mountain? right. sure. yup. totally believable.
By DowntownInHamilton (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 18:10:26 in reply to Comment 103754
They're doing great, thanks for asking. We're settling in to our new home up on the mountain - it's a lot of work, but rewarding. Home ownership, where I have peace and quiet, my own space for my own, for entertaining, for having friends and family around, is great. Something we could never do downtown.
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 22:00:04 in reply to Comment 103768
dude you ARE a gas. a real hoot. tell us, the "friends and family"? do you just imagine them or are there like, department store mannequins staged around moms basement?
By DowntownInHamilton (registered) | Posted August 07, 2014 at 17:16:40 in reply to Comment 103774
You do realize how silly you are, right? Does anyone even pay attention to you? I'm guessing you are a latchkey kid.
By pot meet kettle (anonymous) | Posted August 07, 2014 at 19:52:47 in reply to Comment 103796
By DowntownInHamilton (registered) | Posted August 07, 2014 at 21:20:14 in reply to Comment 103802
Dissenting opinions aren't trolls. Deliberately baiting is trolling. Trying to shout down those that disagree with you by throwing out "troll" or other nonsense is not worthwhile.
By pot kettle (anonymous) | Posted August 07, 2014 at 23:04:36 in reply to Comment 103803
TL;DR version of anything downtowninhamilton has ever posted:
"why would anyone live downtown unless they had to? i got out as soon as i could."...posted to a news site dedicated to urban issues. that's not baiting at all!
By Formerly DowntownInHamilton (anonymous) | Posted August 09, 2014 at 06:51:23 in reply to Comment 103805
Please don't speak on my behalf.
The site isn't dedicated to urban issues. According to the about page, raisethehammer dot org/about:
Raise the Hammer is a group of Hamilton, Ontario citizens who believe in our city's potential and are willing to get involved in making the city a more vibrant, livable, and attractive place to live and work.
We are non-partisan and our members come from diverse political backgrounds. Our common interest is revitalizing our city, a goal that benefits everyone.
About the Site
Raise the Hammer is dedicated to providing a variety of views and approaches to the goal of making Hamilton a great city. Towards that end, we encourage readers to contribute feedback, letters to the editor, and article submissions. Please feel free to contact us with your comments and ideas."
It talks about Hamilton the city, not Hamilton's downtown.
And it's not baiting to share my experience in our city, it's providing a dissenting opinion. But put the blinders back on, fall back in line, that's cool.
By CharlesBall (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 10:50:31 in reply to Comment 103754
Just like you working.
By redmike (registered) | Posted August 06, 2014 at 11:55:53 in reply to Comment 103761
look, its chuckie. took the pacifier out long enough for a hearty "waaahhhhhhhh". hey, chuck, whos talking to you? youre also downtowninhhamilton arent you? trick question: how many personalities DO you have? answer: none. many personas perhaps, but no personality.
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By jason (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 12:58:02 in reply to Comment 103732
Not sure who this ? is directed at, but I'll take a stab. Lol
With 70% of Hamiltonians working IN Hamilton, higher order rapid transit both east/west and from the mountain to lower city would allow a huge portion of those folks to ditch their cars on a day like last Friday and take LRT, BRT to work. It would also make the prospect of taking the GO Train into the GTA more appealing to those who need to commute further afield knowing that their BRT/LRT ride and GO Train ride will be unaffected by the partial QEW closure. In the absence of such transit options, why would anyone choose to sit on an HSR bus stopping every 45 feet and stuck in the same traffic clogged roads as they would be in their comfortable car?
Proper transit options free up valuable road space for folks who need their cars/trucks and are commuting somewhere not served well by transit. Currently, that pretty much describes everywhere.
Hence, all local commuters, those traveling to Burlington and those headed all the way to TO are stuck in their cars since we have provided zero alternatives.
Now the QEW is open and all is back to normal, but we should learn from an experience like this and start building now for future capacity. We saw what happened by simply losing half of one freeway. Add the projected millions more people into the Golden Horseshoe and this type of traffic will be the norm if we continue to only build roads and not rapid transit, walkable neighbourhoods and protected city-wide and inter-city cycling networks.
Comment edited by jason on 2014-08-05 12:59:33
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By jason (registered) | Posted August 05, 2014 at 14:44:13 in reply to Comment 103736
It all adds up one person at a time. Folks who work near the GO Stations in Burlington/Oakville would benefit. Those who work close enough to Hamilton to take the trip by bike. And then, like I mentioned, the vast majority of Hamiltonians who work here in Hamilton would have other options besides their car, which would free up road space for those taking the RHVP/Linc/403 detour.
I live near between King W and York. Both were crawling until after 10pm Friday with folks choosing to come through the city instead of the above-mentioned detour route. Detour routes through Hamilton simply wouldn't be as crammed if locals had any other way to get around. Unfortunately city hall believes the car should be the only way folks travel, and therefore we can prepare to enjoy more commutes like Friday's in the future.
I'm not advocating we make these investments in case half a highway ever closes again. I'm suggesting we do it because it's proven to be the only way to allow tremendous growth without turning into LA, or suburban Toronto. As our city and region grow, we will extend the life of all roads/freeways by giving folks good options. A few years ago it was reported that traffic hadn't increased on the Gardiner Expressway in over 15 years despite all the growth in downtown TO and millions more in the GTA. This is what happens when there are other options.
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