Comment 80716

By kiely (registered) | Posted September 07, 2012 at 12:10:06 in reply to Comment 80702

If they won't listen to experts, what reason do we have to believe that they will listen to citizens?

The experts don't get to vote Highwater. Enough about the experts, yes, yes, we've heard it all before. Apparently the average Hamiltonian doesn't give a crap about Richard Florida and the cadre of experts the city has hosted over the years.

We need to engage the citizens and specifically the constituents of those councilors who don't support this. And as Jay points out the message needs to be improved. The advocates or "usual suspects" are being called out for hyperbole on this subject. Dianni did it in the last issue of Hamilton magazine and Dreschel did it just the other day in the Spec. These aren't unreasonable people and if they are calling hyperbole on the message than, maybe that is something to consider.

You can't start the conversation with "We're all right and you all need to listen to us" that isn't going to work. Many people have come on this forum and attempted to point out the short comings in how this forum advocates change but they are often labeled "concern trolls" (how about losing that dismissive and condescending BS to start with) or simply voted down for difference of opinion.

If the "usual suspects" want to be advocates for change the tone and maybe even the message itself needs to change because it seems to me something just isn't working with the current approach.

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