Comment 70809

By adrian (registered) | Posted October 24, 2011 at 09:39:45 in reply to Comment 70769

I'm just not sure that even with a cross walk every 200m and every road having a posted speed limit of 30 km/h would do much.

Actually, if the speed limit was 30 km/h, most people struck by cars would not die. At 32 km/h, the likelihood that you will be killed by a car is 5%. At 48 km/h it is 45%, at 64 km/h (pretty standard on our main arteries), the likelihood is 85%. So your claim about 30 km/h is patently, scientifically false.

See this article for more details on that.

Secondly, although I appreciate you taking the time to list the fatalities from 2010, cherry-picking one particular year does not prove your point. The most recent fatality was the one I wrote about, a woman who "attempted to cross Fennell". In September, it was a young woman who was killed on Main Street at Main and Walnut. In March, two people died:

"On Friday, March 4, at about 8:30 p.m., a 23-year-old woman crossing Barton Street just east of Normanhurst Avenue was struck by a car. She died early March 5. Her name has not been released.

On Monday, March 7, Travis Savidant, a 15-year-old high school student, died after one of two vehicles involved in a collision at the intersection of East 14th and Howe streets struck him on the sidewalk."

These are all urban locations, and if the cars were traveling substantially slower than they were, I suspect that there would have been fewer fatalities, and probably - based on the statistics I quoted - none.

Looking at the data above, it appears the one suggestion that might actually make a difference is to have dedicated bike lanes. The bike lanes should either be equipped with a physical barrier to protect from cars or should be on roads with reduced car traffic and reduced speeds.

You're not looking at "data", you're looking at anecdotes. Eleven fatalities in one year do not represent data from which you can extrapolate conclusions. The data - as in, studies based on thousands of incidents - clearly indicate that changes, such as reduced speed limits, do reduce pedestrian fatalities.

Furthermore, the information on cycling that I posted about show that as the rate of cycling increases, overall fatalities decrease - not because of physically separated bike lanes, but because the streets become safer for EVERYONE on them.

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