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By cd (anonymous) | Posted August 24, 2010 at 17:00:47
"I hadn't seen WH as a socialist stadium site, although can see where WH might be a fertile ground for that sort of perception, given that the site connects with so many other urban agendas, whereas EM seems like a state-financed power centre at best."
Interesting distinction, Fred. WH is connected to a New Urbanism communitarian model that talks about people-tenants, while the EM site is clearly tied to corporate (and "state-financed" interests). Mayor Eisenberger's reluctance to talk about his August 6 discussions with the provincial government certainly introduces the idea of a sleazy State and city connection that maybe, to his credit, he's tried to nix. I don't know. To discuss the WH stadium issue along ideological lines (at least for purposes of debate)is interesting except that it's not all that helpful to us here.
I'm prepared to look at any site, putting aside the rhetoric & looking at the facts tout court. A good case could be made for just about any proposed site. I'm not siding against anyone's political leanings; I just wish the WH supporters would admit to holding them whenever they raise their "people over profits" banner.
By the way, this system of vetting comments by "comment score" reminds me of the Athenian democratic system of drawing lots that Plato rightly condemned (in "The Republic")as democracy at its worst. It's disconcerting to me to see people's comments eliminated or faded: very Orwellian. A subtle and gradual way to prevent the self-organization & mobilization of any dissenting viewpoint.
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