Powergroup has just posted its latest Chat from the Lair, an hour-long conversation with Mark Chamberlain, CEO of Trivaris and a community leader with a focus on prosperity and social equity.
It's an intense, heated, and at times deeply personal exploration of the question about whether, where and how we should allow OLG to put a casino in Hamilton.
By Conrad664 (registered) | Posted February 21, 2013 at 13:13:35
OMG polution what about Stelco they have been getting pls sick since it opened
By Rimshot (anonymous) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 08:31:30
Bood achoho evels on the aircast cause otherwise inteiigent paneiists to sound borderine obiterated
By Kiely (registered) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 10:43:44 in reply to Comment 86588
The people in Flamborough seem to want one though. So should we not let them have it if they want it?
I'm not a fan of casinos, at all, but the Flamborough issue is a muddy one. They seem to mainly want the gambling revenue to save the horse industry. If they're willing to make that deal and it avoids a downtown casino then so be it I guess.
By Kiely (registered) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 11:13:34
Interesting discussion. I like Mark Chamberlain's points about placing people first, and placing what is happening here in a broader global context and how we can't just do whatever we want and ignore the global context.
The discussion around exposing 3% of our population to a potential gambling addiction so 97% can have some fun was interesting as well.
By gotcha (anonymous) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 11:28:28
Very eye opening debate. Chamberlain was armed to the teeth with numbers that prove a downtown c@sino is a bad idea.
The only thing Lieberman could come back with is a silly argument rule that you're not allowed to oppose a downtown c@sino unless you also fight OLG at the provincial level. If you aren't fighting to change or stop OLG then you're opposition to a dt casino is hypocritical.
That's what the downtown c@sino lobby is reduced to, playing childish gotcha games.
By Conrad664 (registered) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 12:10:47 in reply to Comment 86626
It whould be nice if the casino whent to Flamboraugh , but the question is ... do you know anyone willing to spend at least 100 million dollars in farmland and possibly save the facetrak
By Conrad664 (registered) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 12:11:25 in reply to Comment 86634
racetrake
By Undustrial (registered) - website | Posted February 22, 2013 at 20:26:17 in reply to Comment 86630
With statistics like that, I can't help but wonder what a similar analysis would show of cocaine users. Most I know who dabble infrequently show little risk of addiction, and tend to be a lot more likely to 'grow out of it' than end up in need of rehab. Economically, most of us simply couldn't afford to get hooked. Why deprive 90+% of our city the joy of an occasional line for their sake?
By Hamilton resident (anonymous) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 22:20:11
Mark Chamberlain made point after point to support the argument against a casino downtown.
Loren Leiberman's arguments were basic and unsound. There appeared to be no fact & all opinion.
One of the most coherent casino discussions to date.
I agree with Mr Chamberlain, if every municipality is going to introduce a inner city casino, why doesn't Hamilton do something different?
#CasiNo
By DrAwesomesauce (registered) | Posted February 22, 2013 at 22:28:57 in reply to Comment 86635
Good God, man. I'm sympathetic to the fact that you're likely not a first language English speaker but you've got to take more care with your spelling, let alone grammar/ syntax. Perhaps you could type your responses into Word first,spell check the thing and then post it here. Otherwise, people won't take anything you say seriously. Give it some thought, please, for the love of God.
By RickHammer (anonymous) | Posted February 23, 2013 at 11:25:24
Don't get angry at a small man like Lauren Libelman. Between ripping off the city for FoF and now this he is to be ignored and pitied. Graham Crawford got pissy with him. LL is just trolling in real life.
By Kiely (registered) | Posted February 23, 2013 at 18:40:09 in reply to Comment 86660
Economically, most of us simply couldn't afford to get hooked.
Ah, but economics don't matter once you are.
By Conrad664 (registered) | Posted February 24, 2013 at 20:07:47 in reply to Comment 86668
Tarnashan, Eyes gunna tri end be fixed me gramma and ritten hear.
By Libelman (anonymous) | Posted February 24, 2013 at 20:10:32
Libel man! HaHaHa! That is awesome. Cruelest thing you can do to LL is ignore him. Observe how Ryan ignores Mahesh on this site. Very powerful stuff.
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