City Traffic Staff: Actuated Signals Will Accommodate Cyclists

By: RTH Staff
Published: 2008/12/04 (Category: Transportation)

Earlier this week, the City Traffic Department announced that they want to try and speed up traffic on James and John Streets, including spending $60,000 to convert four intersections to actuated signals, meaning they stay green for the major street until a sensor is activated to turn the light to red - either by a vehicle approaching the intersection on the side street or by a pedestrian pushing a button.

Transportation advocates cried foul, arguing that high speed traffic is detrimental to urban revitalization and that actuated signals don't respond to cyclists.

In response to the latter point, Daryl Bender, the city's alternative transportation manager, has forwarded a statement from City Traffic staff that they are still working out the specifics of the actuated signals, but they "intend to accommodate cyclists."

Staff are still "in the initial stages of the process" and can't provide details yet on how it would work, but they note that "a variety of strategies and hardware options" are available.

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By zach hargrove
Posted 12/4/2008 12:16:48 PM

Huh? There's stuff happening locally? :o)

This is good news I guess, but it's still messed up that the city is trying to make traffic go FASTER through downtown streets!!

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By jason
Posted 12/4/2008 4:28:03 PM

I give up.

Let's just convert everything to one-way, bulldoze all sidewalks so we can get an extra 2 lanes of traffic and remove all stoplights so cars never have to stop. Then our city would really boom.

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By Hammerhead
Posted 12/5/2008 3:52:34 PM

There does appear to be major bottlenecks in certain areas on John and James. But ONLY during rush hour. They need some sort of a solution to move this traffic. I don't think "speeding up" the traffic is the issue. Simply moving the vehicles so that they don't just sit there spewing toxic fumes - I'm wondering if this is somewhat counter - productive to one of the reasons we want the area to be more pedestrian friendly....?

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By jason
Posted 12/5/2008 4:21:33 PM

exactly...traffic is now slower for a grand total of about 45 minutes during rush hour. That's how it should be.
By my count, the only thing I can see needed is a left-turn advance signal northbound on John at King.
Otherwise, leave it alone. People needing the Jolley Cut should be using John, not James Street.

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By Hammerhead
Posted 12/5/2008 4:47:28 PM

Jason: John St is just as bad as James at rush hour. If you get a chance check out both streets between Hunter and Charlton between 5 and 6pm. There is nowhere to go. Beleive me, I am all for a pedestrian friendly downtown but apart from diverting more traffic to Wellington, I think there is a real problem here. Slowing down the traffic works great during non-rush hour periods. During the rush hour it's not slow - it's STOP. I don't think this is what was envisioned. Until we all magically stop using cars, all move across the street from of places of employment or there are better North/South routes, we will just be frustrating people and causing more pollution.

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By jason
Posted 12/5/2008 7:17:05 PM

if you want to reduce pollution, the answer is less cars. People will use their cars less when walking/cycling/transit are viable options to get around. Increasing vehicle times will result in more cars which equals more pollution.

Also, you answered your own question in the previous post - divert traffic to Wellington. It baffles my mind why people sit in traffic on James to head up to West 5th or Up. Wellington when a 6 lane freeway called the Claremont Access sits virtually empty 24 hours a day and also comes up to West 5th and Upper James (one street west of Up. Wellington).
People need to be educated on a more 'car-friendly' route in and out of downtown instead of us sacrificing the quality of life and business on our major downtown retail/commercial streets for people who simply want to use downtown as their own personal SOV freeway.

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By Bee
Posted 12/6/2008 3:34:57 AM

If it gets rid of the current timed lighting that's only useful in one direction, then I'm ok with it. Cyclists can trigger the inductive loops if they know where to position their bike.

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By adam1
Posted 12/7/2008 12:48:32 PM

Putting in pushbutton actuators will encourage cyclists to ride on the sidewalks.

Also if drivers really cared about idling causing pollution, THEY WOULD CARPOOL.

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