Raise the Hammer

Self-selected online polls are worth the paper they're written on - I think 4chan et al have proved that more than convincingly. At the very least the poll website should be posting a list of tracebacks.

Yeah, real "strange".

The poll on the site is not locked down by IP address, as deleting the cookie for http://panamhamilton2015.ca/ allows one to vote again.

Shenanigans abound.

I just think it shows that EM supporters don't have any strong, convincing arguments to make and don't care as passionately about the future of our city as WH supporters do. Also no doubt they were sent there by the ticats fan page so I imagine alot of them don't even live here.

Off-topic, but I noticed that if you search for "stadium" on Google, the Ticats have an ad running.

I checked into the bid competition and if you click that ad, it costs the Ticats at least $1.25.

Yes, that's right - if you just:

1) Searching for "stadium" in Google
2) Click on the ad that says "Truth about the stadium"

You've just cost Bob Young $1.20 or more! They must be dropping serious cash on this campaign.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Somebody really wants an East Mountain site. A lot. This happened fairly recently - otherwise they would have played the Ti-Cat card earlier and would have attempted to rig the Future Fund a little better. Whether it's a play for the election, interest in the west harbour lands (something Torontoesque perhaps?), or simply more planned East-Mountain subdivisions. Whatever it is, there's something we're not hearing yet.

I've seen this kind of thing often enough - there's always some sort of clever backroom deal. Like the way the Spectator ran a big article the day AFTER DiIanni was elected about the planned billion-dollar suburb DeSantis was planning to put on the East Mountain. One of the headlines was "Expressway was the lynchpin". Funny how there was little of such coverage before the election, even though we continually pointed it out. Saw it on the West Coast, too, with Olympic-related highway developments which just happened to open up acres of forested mountain owned by a local development company who planned to build $1-3 million mansions there. And though the local Liberal MLA had won her seat based on opposition to cutting the highway through the mountain, she quickly flip-flopped when she got into office. Her husband, it turned out, was one of the local heads of that same development company.

Development is a shady game. Look at Detriot and all the millions which have been made by burning down homes.

If you click on the article about Winnipeg's new stadium being built you'll find a few comments about the stupidity of not putting it downtown as well..

google ads for the east mountain website. i dont know whether to laugh or cry. but i did just add to their bill :)

And gave them another vote..............

clicking on a google ad does not show support, it just contributes to site traffic. and google charges per click...

at this point I don't think results on an online poll are going to sway anybody. If council still needs swaying despite the massive WH support from all sides, they are really missing the point.

The poll is slowly swinging back to pre-hijack proportions.

There is a definite momentum shift back to WH.

"Like this isn't an invitation for supporters of the WH to flood this area with their vote/s."

It's encouraging people who wish to vote in that poll, to vote in it. For everyone, dig?

Ypocrasy, nowhere on Mr. Whitehead's poll does it say that it is limited only to ward 8 residents.

There's a difference between forty fans of the West Harbour plan going and voting on an online poll and one fan of the East Mountain location going to vote 40 times in quick succession. That's not hypocrisy. Every democratic vote depends, to some degree, on the simple logistics of which side is better at mobilizing their supporters when it counts. It's undemocratic when something other than actual votes are being counted.

The city site says it's exactly 50/50 right now for me...

"Captain, they have adapted." Now there are a few token pro-EM comments on the comments page. Some serious astroturfing going on.

EM supporters might as well vote 20 times for their choice. Meanwhile down at the WH, some real money is starting to flow from the private sector, along with possible top tier management:

http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews...

lots of ads floating around the internet for the goeastmountain site. anyone else spot the ones on facebook?

jason.... there's a newer article with some comments from Scott Mitchell that really open the eyes to the attitude the Cats are taking to this - disgusting. Anyone with the balls to say that Bob Young is concerned about the city needs their head taken out of the behinds.

http://www.thespec.ca/News/Local/article...